A relative of mine recently replaced her dumb phone with a smart phone. Even though the iPhone was available she chose an Android since the sales person said they were pretty much identical and the Android was cheaper. She considers herself a technical person since she had a government job where she had to enter Unix commands. I never argue with folks like this since it tends to further lock their minds. So I started wondering whether the sales person was incompetent or just an Android fan. Then it dawned on me (a real duh moment).
Why would any carrier push an iPhone and pay Apple a big subsidy when the can get the dumb customer to accept an Android with no subsidy?
Birra 4:22 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
This anecdotal story does have a happy ended. Her husband who admits to hating computers played around with a friend’s iPad. Guess who now is having a great time with their new iPad and guess who now has developed Apple envy.
rastard 4:44 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
Another possibility is that to a large population of buyers, ‘they actually are pretty much identical and the Android is cheaper’.
But no, that couldn’t be it. Anyone who buys Android must be dumb and salespeople must be incompetent — that’s the only possible explanation.
And despite that kind of mindset, we still wonder why there’s a backlash against Apple?
Birra 4:52 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
Quote from above, “I never argue with folks like this since it tends to further lock their minds.”
GotWake 5:23 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
“And despite that kind of mindset, we still wonder why there’s a backlash against Apple?”
Maybe you could provide some citation about this “backlash”, you speak of.
rastard 5:45 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
I’m not going to waste my time answering a ridiculous question. If you don’t already realize that a reasonably large population of people buy Android (and other non-Apple products) simply out of reaction to Apple fanboys’ pretentious and arrogant stance that owners of non-Apple owners are idiots, no amount of citations will change your mind.
Sure, they may be cutting off their noses to spite their faces, but it nonetheless reduces the sales of Apple products…
Birra 6:05 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
Where @ratsturd is concerned keep this in mind.
Quote from above, “I never argue with folks like this since it tends to further lock their minds.”
rastard 6:09 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago
If the best you can do is continue to call me ratsturd, then you’re clearly not worth listening to anyway…
GotWake 7:58 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
What’s ridiculous is assuming that there’s a “backlash” against Apple because people are buying Android phones. There have always been people that hate Apple. The iPhone 4s just sold out in 10 minutes in Hong Kong. It set record sales the opening week. If that’s a “backlash”, I really want to piss people off.
GotWake 8:01 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago
And it’s really funnny how you always want a citation or play on one word in someone’s statement. But, you never really feel the need when someone calls you on the BS you post.
Birra 8:06 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago
You’re right very few purchases are based upon negative emotions. Heck, I’d buy a product that competes with Apple if I could find a better one, as long as th
rastard 8:33 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago
“There have always been people that hate Apple”
That’s exactly my point. Unless you want to assert that it’s because they actually don’t like Apple’s products, there must be another reason. My leading theory is that “people hate Apple because hardcore Apple fanboys are frequently pretentious, arrogant and supercilious, douchebags, and don’t want to be associated with them. Do you have an alternate theory that you would attribute the Apple hatred to?
GotWake 1:56 am on November 10, 2011 192 days ago
I thought you were referring to a backlash towards the iPhone.
For some reason, people think we are suppose to sit meekly as they berate us about the evils of the Mac, iPhone, iPad or iAnything. If we don’t, then we are the typical fanboy.
Right before last Christmas, I was talking to my buddy that’s at one of the Best Buy Kiosk. Some guy comes over to attack him about how viruses were going to get the Mac in the next year. We just looked at each other after he leaves. He says people come up to him all the time on the attack. When I go on forums, Apple haters are on Apple related websites attacking Apple fans. I don’t like Microsoft products, hence, I never visit websites about Microsoft. Case in point, you don’t seem to like Apple very much or invest in aapl, yet, here you are on a finance forum under aapl trashing Apple most of the time. But, hardcore Apple fanboys are “pretentious, arrogant and supercilious douchebags.
rastard 10:58 pm on November 14, 2011 187 days ago
“When I go on forums, Apple haters are on Apple related websites attacking Apple fans. I don’t like Microsoft products, hence, I never visit websites about Microsoft.”
The funny part is that I think you actually believe that about yourself. Your posting history here shows otherwise: http://www.traderhood.com/boards/GOOG/
“Case in point, you don’t seem to like Apple very much or invest in aapl”
AAPL is currently my 2nd largest holding. In the past year here, I’ve posted both times I’ve added to my AAPL holdings (yes, only 2 — I’m not a frequent trader). I haven’t posted any sales, because I haven’t made any.
GotWake 2:49 am on November 15, 2011 187 days ago
I think I’ll do like you and focus on something obscure:
“When I go on forums, Apple haters are on Apple related websites attacking Apple fans. I don’t like Microsoft products, hence, I never visit websites about Microsoft.”
I don’t see anything in this quote that has anything to do with “Google”.
rastard 4:26 am on November 15, 2011 186 days ago
Ah, okay, I misunderstood you. When you claimed that unlike Apple haters who post crap on Apple boards, you don’t ever do that yourself, you were only talking about MSFT’s boards specifically. Got it.
Carry on then, and continue to feel superior to those Apple trashers…
GotWake 1:20 pm on November 15, 2011 186 days ago
Let’s look at some simple stats for this website. Just looking at the number of topics start:
DIA – 110
NOK – 10
GOOG – 50
MOT – 2
AAPL – 690
TSLA – 50
AMZN – 4
RIMM – 20
BRK.A – 1
BRK – 1
XOM – 2
I’m sure I probably missed some, but out of approximately 940 topics, aapl dominates by almost 74 percent. I’m not going to look at every post, but if you did, I would expect that this number would skew even more towards aapl. So, I think it is fair to say that even though this website isn’t an Apple specific site, most here are interested in aapl and/or Apple products.
So no, me posting on a goog sub-forum on a website that is dominated by Apple isn’t the same as someone trolling on Macworld. I know you probably cannot see the difference, luckily others can.
rastard 2:18 pm on November 15, 2011 186 days ago
Are you now asserting that you only trash Google and Android on websites or articles that are Apple focused?
GotWake 2:53 pm on November 15, 2011 186 days ago
LOL As normal, you never quite get it.
Billybob101 4:48 am on November 10, 2011 191 days ago Reply
When you try to sell crap, you are incompetent.
chach17 4:51 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
I think people that are unaccustomed to smart phones might be easily persuaded to purchase an Android based upon what you have said – it’s cheaper and it does all the same stuff.
I think the question becomes, how many Android users end up switching to the iPhone because after they become accustomed to it they realize that Android is crap and iPhone is king?
Senator Gronk 11:09 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
One might say that the best iPhone customer is someone that has already owned an Android phone.
Birra 4:52 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
Quote from above, “I never argue with folks like this since it tends to further lock their minds.”
Birra 5:36 pm on November 9, 2011 192 days ago Reply
One of the Android selling points was 4G. Later she found out that their is no 4G is northern Minnesota. Yes, the sales person lives in northern Minnesota.
JPWatkins 9:43 pm on November 10, 2011 191 days ago Reply
The fact is, there are some people who love or hate any group, brand, idea, etc. with great zeal. The stronger the the target of their emotions is, the greater the emotion. The real desusionals project their own view globally and assume everyone believes at they do.
Rastard could be describing himself or any other fan. Simply change the appropriate words and phrases . . .
“My leading theory is that “people hate Apple because hardcore Apple fanboys are frequently pretentious, arrogant and supercilious, douchebags, and don’t want to be associated with them. Do you have an alternate theory that you would attribute the Apple hatred to?”
Richard 10:51 pm on November 10, 2011 191 days ago Reply
Well, I thought I was replying to a reply, but … anyway, no one buys a phone because they think bad thoughts about Apple. They buy another phone because they don’t know about Apple.